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Safe For Work

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Safe For Work

Safe For Work

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Life at work can be funny, challenging, ridiculous, and -- yes, even satisfying. Here at Safe For Work, we're all about helping you find balance and happiness in your career. After all, many of us spend more time with our co-workers and clients than with our friends and family. Hosts Liz Dolan and Rico Gagliano give advice on everything from how to avoid burnout on the job to how to fake an illness when you're calling in sick. We also talk to experts about those moments at the office that can challenge the best of us: negotiating raises, knowing when it’s time to move on...or dealing with that annoying office mate with no boundaries. From Wondery, the network behind Business Wars, Safe For Work is helpful career advice that's lively and fun, just like your work life should be. In every episode, Liz and Rico talks with callers, business leaders and noted know-it-alls who share their hard-earned wisdom from the trenches. Liz Dolan is the former head of marketing at Nike, The Oprah Winfrey Network and National Geographic and host of the podcast Satellite Sisters. Rico Gagliano is a contributor to The Wall Street Journal, former host of podcast Dinner Party Download, reporter on the public radio show Marketplace, and co-author of BRUNCH IS HELL.

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Safe For Work Signs-Off

It’s that time, dear listeners. We’ve reached the end of Safe for Work. And for the record, we have loved every minute of making this podcast! In the interest of social distancing, Liz and Rico are coming to you for this last show from their remote corners of Los Angeles. But that doesn’t mean they won’t have their usual SFW flair. Speaking of flair, Rico finally got Liz to watch his (and America’s) favorite workplace movie.... Yes, we’re talking about Office Space. We’ll hear Liz’s review and Rico’s impression of Milton for our final Work Pop installment. Then, Liz and Rico revisit some memorable callers, starting with Gabriel, who reached out to us about whether to put BDSM event planning and training gigs on his otherwise run-of-the-mill resume. Our second caller on the list is Dustin, a construction worker turned architect who felt out of place among his more privileged colleagues. And last but certainly not least, we are revisiting a call from the rather hilarious Sarah, who had issues with colleagues making pretty intrusive comments about her pregnancy. Finally, Liz and Rico do their own final performance evaluations, and sign off for the last time. But in a way, we’re not completely leaving you, dear listeners. Four encore SFW episodes geared toward remote work situations are coming your way starting next week. We hope that will help you stay sane as you rearrange your work life around the COVID-19 pandemic. If you’d like to keep in touch, tag @SafeForWork on Twitter. And if you’d like to stay connected to the SFW team, you can follow our sage hosts on social media; Find Liz on Twitter @SSLiz. Rico is @RicoGagliano on Twitter and Instagram. To check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19. And look for Rico’s byline in the Wall Street Journal’s formerly-titled Travel section--for the time being, that has been renamed the “Reading and Retreating” section. If you’d like to follow the SFW squad, our audio engineer Mischa Stanton is on Twitter @mischaetc or at mischastanton.com. Our producer is Audrey Ngo. Find her on Instagram @audwoman. Our executive producer is Grace Delia. Find her on Twitter @g_piro_delia.

38 MIN5 d ago
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Safe For Work Signs-Off

Team Building in Uncertain Times

Since you last heard from us (a mere week ago), office culture has, changed, shall we say. The SFW team is all doing well, under the circumstances. And if you’re in your respective corners like us, and would like some advice on how to make working from home… well, work… from home... may we suggest listening to our episodes, “The Secret to Managing Your Remote Team” and “How to Stay Sane When You’re Working From Home.” Today we’re gonna talk a little bit about how COVID-19 is affecting the state of work. But then, in a sharp left turn, we have something much more fun planned. We’ve invited back some of our favorite callers to get an update on how they’re doing! First up is listener Elyse, who called back in August of last year. Elyse “caught feelings” for a man in Denmark and wanted to know what her options were to work in that country. We check back in to see how that love affair is, or isn’t working out. Then, Liz and Rico catch up with listener Steven, who called bac...

39 MIN1 w ago
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Team Building in Uncertain Times

Introducing Even the Rich

Sometimes we all think our lives are crazy. But on Wondery's new series, co-hosts Brooke Siffrinn and Aricia Skidmore-Williams pull back the curtain and dish on someone else's craziness for a change. Brooke and Aricia will tell the stories of some of the greatest family dynasties in history, from the Murdochs to the Carters (Jay-Z and Beyoncé, that is). Because as none other than Queen Elizabeth once said, "A good gossip is a wonderful tonic." Listen today:wondery.fm/safeforworkETR

8 MIN2 w ago
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Introducing Even the Rich

The Pros and Cons of Being A Contractor

The SFW staff is pretty familiar with freelance life. Rico’s worked in media for most of his career. And for much of that, he’s been a freelance contractor. Liz has spent a lot of time in the 9 to 5 of the corporate world, but she is now an independent consultant and media worker. And they’re not alone. According to a 2018 poll from NPR and Marist, one in five Americans is freelancing. Seeing as everyone on this show is going to be moving on to new, probably freelance gigs in the very near future, we thought we’d all talk about it. Joining Liz and Rico today is SFW producer and avid freelancer Audrey Ngo, for a roundtable discussion on the pros and cons of the contractor world. Later, listener Karson is weighing whether he should leave a job he loves that doesn’t pay well, or get more money at a new position in a toxic work environment. And in this week’s Work Pop, Liz and Rico hear a clip from the AMC show, “Better Call Saul” and talk about whether an interview can really r...

36 MIN2 w ago
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The Pros and Cons of Being A Contractor

Lessons Learned from Surviving WeWork

When reading about some startup that’s suddenly doing gangbuster business, do you ever wonder, “What it would really be like to work in that office?” Then when they crash and burn, you imagine what it must have been like to be on that insane roller-coaster! That brings us to WeWork, which not long ago was buying up skyscrapers in cities all over the world to offer to customers as temporary workspaces. WeWork rocketed up to a value of $47 billion… and then totally crashed. Failed founder Adam Neumann walked away with more than a billion dollars while thousands of rank-and-file employees lost their jobs, stock options, everything. Joanna Strange was a WeWork employee, she’s now at a company called Less Doing and is featured on a new Wondery podcast about the WeWork debacle called WeCrashed. Joanna’s here on SFW today to share a few hard-won lessons from that turbulent period. And later, Liz and Rico chat with listener Kat who’s trying to avoid an awkward exit interview. Then, Liz provides some book recommendations for listener Skyler, who’s seeking career advice via the written word. And finally, listener Brad gets a letter from our own Larry Seal with wisdom on whether Brad should leave his steady job for a fulfilling side gig. As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

39 MIN3 w ago
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Lessons Learned from Surviving WeWork

Tips For A Lasting Creative Career

Some people get all the breaks. How many of us have friends who can just fly by the seat of their pants, take risks and still come out at the top of their career game? If you’ve ever wondered how they do it, we’ve got an inside scoop today from indie-rock legend David Gedge! Gedge is one of Rico’s personal musical heroes, but more germaine to our purposes here, he’s is an inspiring example of pulling off a long-term career, on your own terms. And yes, it’s still a lot of hard work. We also have some news, dear listeners, and it’s well...not so fun. A few episodes from now, sad to say, we will be bidding you adieu. After two years and just over a hundred episodes, Safe For Work has reached its end. Our final episode will air March 30th. You’ll still be able to hear Liz co-hosting her long-standing Wondery show Satellite Sisters. And in addition to hearing Rico as a fill-in host on L.A.’s own KCRW, he’s writing and producing a music miniseries for Wondery that will air later ...

44 MINMAR 2
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Tips For A Lasting Creative Career

How To Deal With Soul-Sucking Workplace Archetypes

It’s vampire time! Yes, it’s a weird way to introduce this episode. But we’re not talking about the Bram Stoker version of vampires. This episode is all about the kind of people (fully alive, not undead) who suck the joy and energy out of your work day, i.e. the “paranoids,” “histrionics” and “narcissists” that inevitably infiltrate most offices. In that vein, we’re taking a page, literally, from the book, “Emotional Vampires: Dealing with People Who Drain You Dry” by Albert Bernstein. And joining us for a chat about how to throw open the curtains and burn these beasts with sunlight is the hilarious Akilah Hughes. She’s co-host of Crooked Media’s daily podcast “What A Day,” the author of a new memoir “Obviously: Stories From My Timeline,” a television correspondent for multiple networks, and just for kicks she’s also a popular YouTuber, stand-up comic and former Disney World employee. Workplace-wise, Akilah has seen it all. Then, listener Sara is competing with he...

38 MINFEB 24
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How To Deal With Soul-Sucking Workplace Archetypes

Wondery Presents: The School of Greatness

The School of Greatness with Lewis Howes is the best place to learn how to dream bigger, live better, and make an impact. The show features conversations with world-class game changers, and dives into topics from entrepreneurship and inspiration, to health and relationships. Subscribe today at: wondery.fm/safeforworkSOG

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Wondery Presents: The School of Greatness

We’re Taking Your Calls, Dear Listeners!

Today we’re doing our favorite thing--taking your calls for (almost) the whole episode! We had so many great emails, that we wanted some extra time to chat work dilemmas with y’all. And while Liz and Rico love giving advice, it’s great when we can learn a few things from our callers. Case in point, up first is listener Luc, who is having trouble choosing between two great job offers. Luc is also transgender and was kind enough to pass along the following workplace resources for the trans community: Learn how to update your documents: The National Center For Transgender Equality Know Your Rights at work: Transgender Law Center National LGBTQ Task Force Legal help: Lambda Legal Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund The National Center For Transgender Equality Then, listener Carol wonders whether she should take the leap and go for some management training, when she’s not sure if being a manager is her cup of tea. And in this week’s MInd the Gap segment, Liz and Rico debate w...

34 MINFEB 17
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We’re Taking Your Calls, Dear Listeners!

Introducing Dying for Sex

EListen to Dying for Sex at wondery.fm/DFS9. When she’s diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer, Molly decides to do something bold: she leaves her unhappy marriage and embarks on a series of sexual adventures to help her feel alive. These experiences are beyond anything she could have imagined, so she shares the details with her closest friend, host Nikki Boyer. The two best friends dissect these hilarious, often touching stories. And they growing even closer as they share Molly's journey together. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Imagined Life, Dying for Sex is a six-part series about friendship, death, sex, and what you do with the time you have left.

7 MINFEB 12
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Introducing Dying for Sex

Latest Episodes

Safe For Work Signs-Off

It’s that time, dear listeners. We’ve reached the end of Safe for Work. And for the record, we have loved every minute of making this podcast! In the interest of social distancing, Liz and Rico are coming to you for this last show from their remote corners of Los Angeles. But that doesn’t mean they won’t have their usual SFW flair. Speaking of flair, Rico finally got Liz to watch his (and America’s) favorite workplace movie.... Yes, we’re talking about Office Space. We’ll hear Liz’s review and Rico’s impression of Milton for our final Work Pop installment. Then, Liz and Rico revisit some memorable callers, starting with Gabriel, who reached out to us about whether to put BDSM event planning and training gigs on his otherwise run-of-the-mill resume. Our second caller on the list is Dustin, a construction worker turned architect who felt out of place among his more privileged colleagues. And last but certainly not least, we are revisiting a call from the rather hilarious Sarah, who had issues with colleagues making pretty intrusive comments about her pregnancy. Finally, Liz and Rico do their own final performance evaluations, and sign off for the last time. But in a way, we’re not completely leaving you, dear listeners. Four encore SFW episodes geared toward remote work situations are coming your way starting next week. We hope that will help you stay sane as you rearrange your work life around the COVID-19 pandemic. If you’d like to keep in touch, tag @SafeForWork on Twitter. And if you’d like to stay connected to the SFW team, you can follow our sage hosts on social media; Find Liz on Twitter @SSLiz. Rico is @RicoGagliano on Twitter and Instagram. To check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19. And look for Rico’s byline in the Wall Street Journal’s formerly-titled Travel section--for the time being, that has been renamed the “Reading and Retreating” section. If you’d like to follow the SFW squad, our audio engineer Mischa Stanton is on Twitter @mischaetc or at mischastanton.com. Our producer is Audrey Ngo. Find her on Instagram @audwoman. Our executive producer is Grace Delia. Find her on Twitter @g_piro_delia.

38 MIN5 d ago
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Safe For Work Signs-Off

Team Building in Uncertain Times

Since you last heard from us (a mere week ago), office culture has, changed, shall we say. The SFW team is all doing well, under the circumstances. And if you’re in your respective corners like us, and would like some advice on how to make working from home… well, work… from home... may we suggest listening to our episodes, “The Secret to Managing Your Remote Team” and “How to Stay Sane When You’re Working From Home.” Today we’re gonna talk a little bit about how COVID-19 is affecting the state of work. But then, in a sharp left turn, we have something much more fun planned. We’ve invited back some of our favorite callers to get an update on how they’re doing! First up is listener Elyse, who called back in August of last year. Elyse “caught feelings” for a man in Denmark and wanted to know what her options were to work in that country. We check back in to see how that love affair is, or isn’t working out. Then, Liz and Rico catch up with listener Steven, who called bac...

39 MIN1 w ago
Comments
Team Building in Uncertain Times

Introducing Even the Rich

Sometimes we all think our lives are crazy. But on Wondery's new series, co-hosts Brooke Siffrinn and Aricia Skidmore-Williams pull back the curtain and dish on someone else's craziness for a change. Brooke and Aricia will tell the stories of some of the greatest family dynasties in history, from the Murdochs to the Carters (Jay-Z and Beyoncé, that is). Because as none other than Queen Elizabeth once said, "A good gossip is a wonderful tonic." Listen today:wondery.fm/safeforworkETR

8 MIN2 w ago
Comments
Introducing Even the Rich

The Pros and Cons of Being A Contractor

The SFW staff is pretty familiar with freelance life. Rico’s worked in media for most of his career. And for much of that, he’s been a freelance contractor. Liz has spent a lot of time in the 9 to 5 of the corporate world, but she is now an independent consultant and media worker. And they’re not alone. According to a 2018 poll from NPR and Marist, one in five Americans is freelancing. Seeing as everyone on this show is going to be moving on to new, probably freelance gigs in the very near future, we thought we’d all talk about it. Joining Liz and Rico today is SFW producer and avid freelancer Audrey Ngo, for a roundtable discussion on the pros and cons of the contractor world. Later, listener Karson is weighing whether he should leave a job he loves that doesn’t pay well, or get more money at a new position in a toxic work environment. And in this week’s Work Pop, Liz and Rico hear a clip from the AMC show, “Better Call Saul” and talk about whether an interview can really r...

36 MIN2 w ago
Comments
The Pros and Cons of Being A Contractor

Lessons Learned from Surviving WeWork

When reading about some startup that’s suddenly doing gangbuster business, do you ever wonder, “What it would really be like to work in that office?” Then when they crash and burn, you imagine what it must have been like to be on that insane roller-coaster! That brings us to WeWork, which not long ago was buying up skyscrapers in cities all over the world to offer to customers as temporary workspaces. WeWork rocketed up to a value of $47 billion… and then totally crashed. Failed founder Adam Neumann walked away with more than a billion dollars while thousands of rank-and-file employees lost their jobs, stock options, everything. Joanna Strange was a WeWork employee, she’s now at a company called Less Doing and is featured on a new Wondery podcast about the WeWork debacle called WeCrashed. Joanna’s here on SFW today to share a few hard-won lessons from that turbulent period. And later, Liz and Rico chat with listener Kat who’s trying to avoid an awkward exit interview. Then, Liz provides some book recommendations for listener Skyler, who’s seeking career advice via the written word. And finally, listener Brad gets a letter from our own Larry Seal with wisdom on whether Brad should leave his steady job for a fulfilling side gig. As always, if you've got a burning workplace question and need some advice, don't hesitate to send us an email (that email, unsurprisingly, is also Safe@Wondery.com). You can also find us on Twitter, we’re @SafeFor Work. Don't forget to follow our sage hosts on Twitter, too; they're @SSLiz and @RicoGagliano. And if you want to check out Liz’s other show, Satellite Sisters, you can find it on Apple Podcasts or Art19.

39 MIN3 w ago
Comments
Lessons Learned from Surviving WeWork

Tips For A Lasting Creative Career

Some people get all the breaks. How many of us have friends who can just fly by the seat of their pants, take risks and still come out at the top of their career game? If you’ve ever wondered how they do it, we’ve got an inside scoop today from indie-rock legend David Gedge! Gedge is one of Rico’s personal musical heroes, but more germaine to our purposes here, he’s is an inspiring example of pulling off a long-term career, on your own terms. And yes, it’s still a lot of hard work. We also have some news, dear listeners, and it’s well...not so fun. A few episodes from now, sad to say, we will be bidding you adieu. After two years and just over a hundred episodes, Safe For Work has reached its end. Our final episode will air March 30th. You’ll still be able to hear Liz co-hosting her long-standing Wondery show Satellite Sisters. And in addition to hearing Rico as a fill-in host on L.A.’s own KCRW, he’s writing and producing a music miniseries for Wondery that will air later ...

44 MINMAR 2
Comments
Tips For A Lasting Creative Career

How To Deal With Soul-Sucking Workplace Archetypes

It’s vampire time! Yes, it’s a weird way to introduce this episode. But we’re not talking about the Bram Stoker version of vampires. This episode is all about the kind of people (fully alive, not undead) who suck the joy and energy out of your work day, i.e. the “paranoids,” “histrionics” and “narcissists” that inevitably infiltrate most offices. In that vein, we’re taking a page, literally, from the book, “Emotional Vampires: Dealing with People Who Drain You Dry” by Albert Bernstein. And joining us for a chat about how to throw open the curtains and burn these beasts with sunlight is the hilarious Akilah Hughes. She’s co-host of Crooked Media’s daily podcast “What A Day,” the author of a new memoir “Obviously: Stories From My Timeline,” a television correspondent for multiple networks, and just for kicks she’s also a popular YouTuber, stand-up comic and former Disney World employee. Workplace-wise, Akilah has seen it all. Then, listener Sara is competing with he...

38 MINFEB 24
Comments
How To Deal With Soul-Sucking Workplace Archetypes

Wondery Presents: The School of Greatness

The School of Greatness with Lewis Howes is the best place to learn how to dream bigger, live better, and make an impact. The show features conversations with world-class game changers, and dives into topics from entrepreneurship and inspiration, to health and relationships. Subscribe today at: wondery.fm/safeforworkSOG

4 MINFEB 20
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Wondery Presents: The School of Greatness

We’re Taking Your Calls, Dear Listeners!

Today we’re doing our favorite thing--taking your calls for (almost) the whole episode! We had so many great emails, that we wanted some extra time to chat work dilemmas with y’all. And while Liz and Rico love giving advice, it’s great when we can learn a few things from our callers. Case in point, up first is listener Luc, who is having trouble choosing between two great job offers. Luc is also transgender and was kind enough to pass along the following workplace resources for the trans community: Learn how to update your documents: The National Center For Transgender Equality Know Your Rights at work: Transgender Law Center National LGBTQ Task Force Legal help: Lambda Legal Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund The National Center For Transgender Equality Then, listener Carol wonders whether she should take the leap and go for some management training, when she’s not sure if being a manager is her cup of tea. And in this week’s MInd the Gap segment, Liz and Rico debate w...

34 MINFEB 17
Comments
We’re Taking Your Calls, Dear Listeners!

Introducing Dying for Sex

EListen to Dying for Sex at wondery.fm/DFS9. When she’s diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer, Molly decides to do something bold: she leaves her unhappy marriage and embarks on a series of sexual adventures to help her feel alive. These experiences are beyond anything she could have imagined, so she shares the details with her closest friend, host Nikki Boyer. The two best friends dissect these hilarious, often touching stories. And they growing even closer as they share Molly's journey together. From Wondery, the makers of The Shrink Next Door and Imagined Life, Dying for Sex is a six-part series about friendship, death, sex, and what you do with the time you have left.

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