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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder and Ronald Klain

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EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder and Ronald Klain

EPIDEMIC with Dr. Celine Gounder and Ronald Klain

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EPIDEMIC is a new, twice-weekly podcast on the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19). Hear from some of the world’s leading infectious disease and public health experts. We’ll help you understand the latest science, the bigger context, and bring you diverse angles—from history and anthropology to politics and economics—depth and texture you won’t get elsewhere.

Hosted by Dr. Celine Gounder, an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist who has worked on tuberculosis and HIV in sub-Saharan Africa, and was an Ebola worker during the West African epidemic. And co-hosted by Ron Klain, the U.S. Ebola czar from 2014 to 2015.

The COVID-19 pandemic may well be the defining moment of our times. Our lives have changed irrevocably. We need to understand the science so we can care for ourselves, our families, and our communities. And we need voices of reason to help us make sense of it all.

Email us your questions at hello@justhumanproductions.org or tweet us @celinegounder and @ronaldklain. We’ll answer a couple of questions on the show each week.

#SARS-CoV-2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

Latest Episodes

S1E8 / Unequal: Race, Status, and COVID-19 / Jeneen Interlandi and Greg Asbed

People who don’t have access to medical care, people who don’t have access to the healthcare system in general, are going to be much more vulnerable. They are not going to be treated, they are going to get sick, they are more likely to die, and they are also more likely to spread the virus to other people.” --Jeneen InterlandiCo-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak with New York Times journalist and editorial board member, Jeneen Interlandi, a key member of the Times 1619 project, about how issues of race historically, and in the present day, impact access to healthcare in America.They also talk with Greg Asbed, co-founder of the Fair Food Program, and a long-time human rights advocate about how COVID-19 is impacting farm workers and our food supply—and how we need to look at farmworkers as “essential services.”Listener Q&A:How effective are school closures in preventing the spread of COVID-19?What is the efficacy of homemade masks when at work?#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coro...

32 MIN1 d ago
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S1E8 / Unequal: Race, Status, and COVID-19 / Jeneen Interlandi and Greg Asbed

S1E7 / The destiny of nations depends on how they feed themselves / Chef José Andrés

“I think today we are going to be doing roughly 125,000 meals across America in very strategic places. Restaurants transforming to Community Kitchens are going to be playing a vital role in every neighborhood of America to provide basic food relief for people in need. And obviously, if you can, you pay, but if you cannot pay, that's fine. No questions asked.” – Chef Jose AndresHow do you feed people during a crisis? Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain talk to Chef Jose Andres, who has fed millions during hurricanes, tsunamis, and all forms of natural disasters, about his work in feeding patients and others impacted by the coronavirus.We also discuss the President's latest comments about health care workers, hear from someone on the front lines, and take your questions, including how to safely bring groceries and delivery food into your home. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

26 MIN4 d ago
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S1E7 / The destiny of nations depends on how they feed themselves / Chef José Andrés

S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights & Coronavirus / Michael Macagnone and Vanita Gupta

“The nation is confronting this kind of social distancing and quarantine for the first time in the modern era, and it isn't clear to me that the laws in place are going to be sufficient. We haven't had enough protections. We don't have paid sick leave, a lot of companies are not giving time off to low wage workers in a way that makes them feel secure...And so this is a problem because not all communities are equally protected right now.” – Vanita GuptaIn today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain talk with Vanita Gupta, one of the nation's leading civil rights lawyers. Gupta is the President and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights and is on lists to be a future Supreme Court appointee. Previously, she was the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General and head of the Civil Right Division at the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as Deputy Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union. Gupta discusses the responsibility the media has in reinf...

29 MIN1 w ago
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S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights & Coronavirus / Michael Macagnone and Vanita Gupta

S1E5 / On the frontlines and in peoples' minds with Adam Grant

"I have to say it's really weird to be at Bellevue right now. On the one hand, it feels like a ghost town. Basically, the hospital has cleared out, largely devoting itself to coronavirus patients. It's eerily quiet except for pages overheard every hour or so for patients who are getting worse and need to be transferred to the ICU and put on a ventilator." --Co-host, Dr. Celine GounderIn this episode, Dr Celine Gounder opens by sharing observations from her day in service at Bellevue Hospital in New York City on Sunday, March 22, 2020.Co-hosts Dr Gounder and Ron Klain also talk with Adam Grant, one of the world's leading experts on how to motivate people.They discuss how we inspire people to do the right thing, and how we keep them from doing the wrong ones.#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

31 MIN1 w ago
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S1E5 / On the frontlines and in peoples' minds with Adam Grant

BONUS / A False Dichotomy: Airborne versus Droplet / Roxanne Khamsi and Lydia Bourouiba

On March 14, 2020, Roxanne Khamsi published an article in Wired magazine: "They Say Coronavirus Isn't Airborne—but It's Definitely Borne By Air." https://www.wired.com/story/they-say-coronavirus-isnt-airborne-but-its-definitely-borne-by-air/In today's episode, Dr. Celine Gounder speaks with Roxanne and Dr. Lydia Bourouiba, an Associate Professor at MIT who directs the Fluid Dynamics of Disease Transmission Laboratory. They speak about the difference between airborne and droplet, and what that means for the safety of healthcare workers and the precautions that individuals should be taking. They also discuss the science behind the 6-feet social distancing guideline, which is based on models that predict how far droplets travel in air, and the flaws in these models that may vastly underestimate how far the virus can travel.“I wanted to know what airborne meant. What does the word airborne actually mean when scientists and biologists talk about it? Because I detected that there was a ...

39 MIN2 w ago
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BONUS / A False Dichotomy: Airborne versus Droplet / Roxanne Khamsi and Lydia Bourouiba

BONUS / Running Out of Time / Michael Donnelly

Michael Donnelly is aprofessional data scientist, policy researcher, and economist. He joined us to discuss epidemiological modeling of the #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus epidemic in the U.S. His conclusion: we're running out of time.You can read Michael's Medium posts here:https://medium.com/@donnellymjd/no-good-options-dda04260b232https://medium.com/@donnellymjd/covid-19-new-york-will-be-the-next-italy-but-doesnt-have-to-be-54a5c8137d42https://medium.com/@donnellymjd/covid-19-nyc-should-brace-for-impact-and-shut-down-now-a7c62afac81e

33 MIN2 w ago
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BONUS / Running Out of Time / Michael Donnelly

S1E4 / Our health system's in trouble / Dan Diamond and Andrew Slavitt

Dan Diamond from Politico and Dr. Andrew Slavitt, former head of Medicare/Medicaid, join Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain to discuss the impact of the coronavirus on the American health system and economy.#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

34 MIN2 w ago
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S1E4 / Our health system's in trouble / Dan Diamond and Andrew Slavitt

S1E3 / Flatten the Curve / Helen Branswell and Dr. Craig Spencer

We're preparing for a surge. A big one. What does this mean for health care workers?#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

33 MIN3 w ago
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S1E3 / Flatten the Curve / Helen Branswell and Dr. Craig Spencer

S1E2 / The Test Kit Debacle / Dr. Tom Frieden

Our special guest this week is Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and former commissioner of the New York City Health Department. As head of the CDC during the Ebola epidemic in 2014, he played a critical role in the CDC’s unprecedented and heroic deployment of personnel to West Africa and was President Obama’s top public health advisor. Dr. Frieden is currently the President and CEO of Resolve to Save Lives, a global non-profit initiative of Vital Strategies, working with countries to prevent 100 million deaths and make the world safer from epidemics. You can find him on Twitter @DrTomFrieden.#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

32 MINMAR 6
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S1E2 / The Test Kit Debacle / Dr. Tom Frieden

S1E1 / Do we need a coronavirus czar?

“We cannot build a wall, a real wall, or a metaphorical wall to keep this disease out. We have to understand it's coming. It's here already. It's going to come to a greater extent and we need to be preparing to deal with that.” --Co-Host Ron KlainIn today’s episode, our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain discuss whether the U.S. should be appointing a coronavirus czar to oversee and coordinate the national response to COVID-19. They share thoughts on the U.S. response so far, including travel restrictions, social distancing, and the decision to appoint Vice President Mike Pence to head the coronavirus response. They end by answering listener questions on traveling for spring break, and address discrimination against Chinese Americans.Is it time to call #SARS-CoV-2 #COVID-19 #coronavirus epidemic a pandemic?

32 MINFEB 28
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S1E1 / Do we need a coronavirus czar?

Latest Episodes

S1E8 / Unequal: Race, Status, and COVID-19 / Jeneen Interlandi and Greg Asbed

People who don’t have access to medical care, people who don’t have access to the healthcare system in general, are going to be much more vulnerable. They are not going to be treated, they are going to get sick, they are more likely to die, and they are also more likely to spread the virus to other people.” --Jeneen InterlandiCo-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain speak with New York Times journalist and editorial board member, Jeneen Interlandi, a key member of the Times 1619 project, about how issues of race historically, and in the present day, impact access to healthcare in America.They also talk with Greg Asbed, co-founder of the Fair Food Program, and a long-time human rights advocate about how COVID-19 is impacting farm workers and our food supply—and how we need to look at farmworkers as “essential services.”Listener Q&A:How effective are school closures in preventing the spread of COVID-19?What is the efficacy of homemade masks when at work?#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coro...

32 MIN1 d ago
Comments
S1E8 / Unequal: Race, Status, and COVID-19 / Jeneen Interlandi and Greg Asbed

S1E7 / The destiny of nations depends on how they feed themselves / Chef José Andrés

“I think today we are going to be doing roughly 125,000 meals across America in very strategic places. Restaurants transforming to Community Kitchens are going to be playing a vital role in every neighborhood of America to provide basic food relief for people in need. And obviously, if you can, you pay, but if you cannot pay, that's fine. No questions asked.” – Chef Jose AndresHow do you feed people during a crisis? Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain talk to Chef Jose Andres, who has fed millions during hurricanes, tsunamis, and all forms of natural disasters, about his work in feeding patients and others impacted by the coronavirus.We also discuss the President's latest comments about health care workers, hear from someone on the front lines, and take your questions, including how to safely bring groceries and delivery food into your home. #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

26 MIN4 d ago
Comments
S1E7 / The destiny of nations depends on how they feed themselves / Chef José Andrés

S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights & Coronavirus / Michael Macagnone and Vanita Gupta

“The nation is confronting this kind of social distancing and quarantine for the first time in the modern era, and it isn't clear to me that the laws in place are going to be sufficient. We haven't had enough protections. We don't have paid sick leave, a lot of companies are not giving time off to low wage workers in a way that makes them feel secure...And so this is a problem because not all communities are equally protected right now.” – Vanita GuptaIn today’s episode, co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain talk with Vanita Gupta, one of the nation's leading civil rights lawyers. Gupta is the President and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights and is on lists to be a future Supreme Court appointee. Previously, she was the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General and head of the Civil Right Division at the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as Deputy Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union. Gupta discusses the responsibility the media has in reinf...

29 MIN1 w ago
Comments
S1E6 / We All Count: Civil Rights & Coronavirus / Michael Macagnone and Vanita Gupta

S1E5 / On the frontlines and in peoples' minds with Adam Grant

"I have to say it's really weird to be at Bellevue right now. On the one hand, it feels like a ghost town. Basically, the hospital has cleared out, largely devoting itself to coronavirus patients. It's eerily quiet except for pages overheard every hour or so for patients who are getting worse and need to be transferred to the ICU and put on a ventilator." --Co-host, Dr. Celine GounderIn this episode, Dr Celine Gounder opens by sharing observations from her day in service at Bellevue Hospital in New York City on Sunday, March 22, 2020.Co-hosts Dr Gounder and Ron Klain also talk with Adam Grant, one of the world's leading experts on how to motivate people.They discuss how we inspire people to do the right thing, and how we keep them from doing the wrong ones.#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

31 MIN1 w ago
Comments
S1E5 / On the frontlines and in peoples' minds with Adam Grant

BONUS / A False Dichotomy: Airborne versus Droplet / Roxanne Khamsi and Lydia Bourouiba

On March 14, 2020, Roxanne Khamsi published an article in Wired magazine: "They Say Coronavirus Isn't Airborne—but It's Definitely Borne By Air." https://www.wired.com/story/they-say-coronavirus-isnt-airborne-but-its-definitely-borne-by-air/In today's episode, Dr. Celine Gounder speaks with Roxanne and Dr. Lydia Bourouiba, an Associate Professor at MIT who directs the Fluid Dynamics of Disease Transmission Laboratory. They speak about the difference between airborne and droplet, and what that means for the safety of healthcare workers and the precautions that individuals should be taking. They also discuss the science behind the 6-feet social distancing guideline, which is based on models that predict how far droplets travel in air, and the flaws in these models that may vastly underestimate how far the virus can travel.“I wanted to know what airborne meant. What does the word airborne actually mean when scientists and biologists talk about it? Because I detected that there was a ...

39 MIN2 w ago
Comments
BONUS / A False Dichotomy: Airborne versus Droplet / Roxanne Khamsi and Lydia Bourouiba

BONUS / Running Out of Time / Michael Donnelly

Michael Donnelly is aprofessional data scientist, policy researcher, and economist. He joined us to discuss epidemiological modeling of the #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus epidemic in the U.S. His conclusion: we're running out of time.You can read Michael's Medium posts here:https://medium.com/@donnellymjd/no-good-options-dda04260b232https://medium.com/@donnellymjd/covid-19-new-york-will-be-the-next-italy-but-doesnt-have-to-be-54a5c8137d42https://medium.com/@donnellymjd/covid-19-nyc-should-brace-for-impact-and-shut-down-now-a7c62afac81e

33 MIN2 w ago
Comments
BONUS / Running Out of Time / Michael Donnelly

S1E4 / Our health system's in trouble / Dan Diamond and Andrew Slavitt

Dan Diamond from Politico and Dr. Andrew Slavitt, former head of Medicare/Medicaid, join Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain to discuss the impact of the coronavirus on the American health system and economy.#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

34 MIN2 w ago
Comments
S1E4 / Our health system's in trouble / Dan Diamond and Andrew Slavitt

S1E3 / Flatten the Curve / Helen Branswell and Dr. Craig Spencer

We're preparing for a surge. A big one. What does this mean for health care workers?#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

33 MIN3 w ago
Comments
S1E3 / Flatten the Curve / Helen Branswell and Dr. Craig Spencer

S1E2 / The Test Kit Debacle / Dr. Tom Frieden

Our special guest this week is Dr. Tom Frieden, the former director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and former commissioner of the New York City Health Department. As head of the CDC during the Ebola epidemic in 2014, he played a critical role in the CDC’s unprecedented and heroic deployment of personnel to West Africa and was President Obama’s top public health advisor. Dr. Frieden is currently the President and CEO of Resolve to Save Lives, a global non-profit initiative of Vital Strategies, working with countries to prevent 100 million deaths and make the world safer from epidemics. You can find him on Twitter @DrTomFrieden.#SARSCoV2 #COVID19 #coronavirus

32 MINMAR 6
Comments
S1E2 / The Test Kit Debacle / Dr. Tom Frieden

S1E1 / Do we need a coronavirus czar?

“We cannot build a wall, a real wall, or a metaphorical wall to keep this disease out. We have to understand it's coming. It's here already. It's going to come to a greater extent and we need to be preparing to deal with that.” --Co-Host Ron KlainIn today’s episode, our co-hosts Dr. Celine Gounder and Ron Klain discuss whether the U.S. should be appointing a coronavirus czar to oversee and coordinate the national response to COVID-19. They share thoughts on the U.S. response so far, including travel restrictions, social distancing, and the decision to appoint Vice President Mike Pence to head the coronavirus response. They end by answering listener questions on traveling for spring break, and address discrimination against Chinese Americans.Is it time to call #SARS-CoV-2 #COVID-19 #coronavirus epidemic a pandemic?

32 MINFEB 28
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S1E1 / Do we need a coronavirus czar?

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