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With Friends Like These

With Friends Like These

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New Season: “With Friends Like These: Converts”. Humans tend not to change their minds, so we’re going to see what we can learn from looking at people that have changed their minds about really big things: religion, politics and also psychic healing, criminal justice and more. We’ll examine historical accounts of converts, the ways we change our brain when we change our mind, and we’ll tell the stories of people who’ve been through it all. New episodes every Friday.

Latest Episodes

When Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own

ESo far this season of “WFLT: Converts Edition,” we’ve focused on why the brain resists change — but that doesn’t mean that people give up on trying. Previous episodes have taught us that arguing doesn’t work and that people’s beliefs can be impervious to facts. But what about the blunt force approach? What about… brainwashing? We'll talk to science writer Kathleen Turner, author of the book, "Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control.” Thanks to our sponsors! Best Fiends: If you’re looking for a fun way to pass the time while engaging your brain and enjoying breathtaking visuals and a gripping story, your answer is Best Fiends,freeon the Apple App Store or Google Play. Crooked Media’s own Adopt-a-State program! Ahead of this year’s elections, the team at Crooked has been hard at work trying to find the best ways for all of you to impact its results aside (of course) from casting your own ballot. Now they have an answer: Vote Save America’s brand new Adopt A State program. The Adopt A State program lets you directly support the work of organizers, volunteers, and candidates in the six key battleground states that will be most important to winning a progressive majority in 2020: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Florida, and North Carolina. When you sign up to adopt a state atvotesaveamerica.com/adopt, you’ll get specific calls to action—things you cando yourself, from home, right now—that will make a huge impact on the races in these states.

35 MIN3 d ago
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When Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own

Why Your Brain Doesn't Want You to Change

EWhat happens when someone tells you something that challenges a deeply held belief? On the surface, it may feel annoying or uncomfortable, but according to research from the University of Southern California by Jonas Kaplan and Sarah Gimbel, it’s more than that. When people are presented with information that runs contrary to what they already believe, “The response in the brain that we see is very similar to what would happen if, say, you were walking through the forest and came across a bear.” On this episode, Kaplan joins the show to talk about this research, and how that instinctive, adverse reaction is the brain trying to protect itself — an attempt to keep your idea of yourself stable and whole. Oh, and Crooked Media fans should know: Kaplan and Gimbel figured this out by studying the stubborn brains of a bunch of liberals. Sources: Kaplan and Gimbel were guests on this episode of the You Are Not So Smart podcast (which was one of the inspirations for this whole season!). The paper about their study is here. The study on how even split-second decisions are hard to change gets a write-up here. Thanks to our sponsors! Ritual, the multivitamin, reinvented. Get 10% off during your first three months at ritual.com/FRIENDS Kiwico, the seriously fun subscription box for kids. Get YOUR FIRST MONTH FREE on select crates at kiwico.com/FRIENDS

32 MIN1 w ago
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Why Your Brain Doesn't Want You to Change

Why (Most) People Don’t Convert

EWelcome to our first themed season, “With Friends Like These: Converts.” We’ve always been interested in why and how people change their minds about what they believe — mostly because it just doesn’t happen that often. Once we we make a choice about who we are or what we want to do, we start ignoring the evidence that might prove us wrong: that’s what “confirmation bias” is. Social psychologist Carol Tavris joins us to discuss the phenomenon, offer examples of it, and delve into the mystery of why some people seem capable of resisting the habit of rationalization and some people don’t. Further reading and sources: “Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me),” by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson Ezra Klein discusses confirmation bias and how the self-reinforcing effect of polarization this previous episode about his book, “Why We’re Polarized.” We discussed the ways we push each other into further and further away once we decide what we believe in this episode with Lilliana Mason, “When Ideology Is Identity”, about her book, “Uncivil Agreement: How Politics Became Our Identity.” One of the most influential accounts of extreme rationalization in action: “When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group the That Predicted the Destruction of the World,” which tells the story of a doomsday cult whose members’ certainty about their beliefs only increased after the apocalypse failed to occur.

35 MIN2 w ago
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Why (Most) People Don’t Convert

It’s My Body and I’ll Live if I Want To with Alice Wong

EThis week friend of the pod Alice Wong (@SFDirewolf) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about what it means to be a part of the disabled community during a pandemic. Spoiler: the world seems to get a little too cavalier about whether or not you deserve to live anymore. They talk about the grassroots activism being done within the community, and what able bodied folks can do to listen and be better. Remember, we are staying inside and quarantining for the good of everyone, not just those we deem worthy of surviving capitalism. Learn more about Alice’s work with the Disability Visibility Project here. Read more about the fight for Medicaid here. Thanks to our sponsors! With their powerful matching technology, ZipRecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right skills and experience for your job — and actively invites them to apply. To try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE, go to ZipRecruiter.com/friends! Le Tote is the fashion RENTAL service where you can choose the cl...

41 MINMAR 27
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It’s My Body and I’ll Live if I Want To with Alice Wong

Welfare for White People with Eduardo Porter

EWant to listen to anything NOT about COVID-19? We got the episode for you! Eduardo Porter (@portereduardo) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about a much lighter subject: the history of racism in class divides and how it still affects us today. They talk about the hopes we’ve had in the past for a racially diverse working class coalition and how it’s been destroyed time and time again by exclusive language. Afterwards, they talk about how our social welfare will probably not cut it for everyone over the coming weeks as we all lose our jobs to this virus. Finally, they talk about what we can do to stay positive when tackling seemingly unsolvable issues. Learn more about Eduardo’s book, American Poison. Looking for a way to help out during this time from your isolation? Donate to the Coronavirus Relief Fund Here. Thanks to our sponsors! Whether your mission is to live a more sustainable life and reduce your fashion footprint, or cut down your shopping bills, the fashion re...

63 MINMAR 20
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Welfare for White People with Eduardo Porter

A Whole Other Level of Disaster (with Dan Drezner)

EThis week Dan Drezner joins Ana Marie Cox to talk about the likelihood of Trump handling COVID-19 responsibly (you guessed it, not well). Dan argues in his book, Toddler in Chief, that not only is Trump a toddler, power in American politics has shifted to the executive, making this more dangerous than ever. They discuss the treacherous tales of badger-related attacks on staffers in the White House to the genuine concerns of friends and family members about Trump’s behavior. Finally, Dan gives us some reasons not to freak out: we still have some power. Thanks to our sponsors! Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? BetterHelp online counseling is there for you. Get 10% off your first month with discount code FRIENDS. Go to BetterHelp.com/FRIENDS Rothy’s shoes are incredibly comfortable with zero break-in period thanks to their seamlessly knit design. With many chic styles to choose from, Rothy's shoes are the perfect pa...

61 MINMAR 14
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A Whole Other Level of Disaster (with Dan Drezner)

The Hopeful Feminist (with Rebecca Solnit)

ECW: Sexual assault and violence against women. If you, or someone you know, has experienced sexual violence, please call the RAINN hotline: 800.656.HOPE (4673). It’s never too late to get help. It’s no secret that most women live in fear of violence. Nearly every week, there’s a news story showcasing the most gruesome examples of it, like the woman who was killed for jogging in Queens, or the countless number of ‘Rejection Murders’ men commit after a woman says “no.” This week, author of Men Explain Things to Me, Rebecca Solnit, joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to discuss her new memoir: Recollections of My Nonexistence. Together, they dream of a world where we don’t have to sit our daughters down and give them a never ending list of safety tips. They talk about what it’s like to grow up in our patriarchal culture, where giving those warnings seems more effective than stopping men from committing acts of violence. Finally, Rebecca reminds us that as much as violent and po...

62 MINMAR 6
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The Hopeful Feminist (with Rebecca Solnit)

The Psychological Abyss (with Ezra Klein)

EThis week we'll answer our number one question: why are we so polarized? Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to answer it. His new book is called, Why We’re Polarized, and they talk about how a lot of divisiveness stems from racism and problems beyond “political disagreements.” Finally they ask, can we bring unconditional love into politics, and more importantly, should we? Join us for another epistemologically exciting episode of With Friends Like These! Thanks to our sponsors! Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals?BetterHelp online counseling is there for you. Best of all, it’s a truly affordable option. Get 10% off your first month with discount code FRIENDS when you go to BetterHelp.com/FRIENDS. With their powerful matching technology, ZipRecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite them to apply to your job. Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE, when you g...

66 MINFEB 28
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The Psychological Abyss (with Ezra Klein)

All Doom And Bloomberg (with Rick Wilson)

EAna Marie Cox (@anamariecox) sits down with Lincoln Group founder Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) to discuss what the soft Republican stance is on everything happening around us right now. Will Trump stop an election from happening? As Rick agrees: Yikes all around. Thanks to our sponsors! Postage rates have gone up AGAIN. Thankfully, Stamps.com eases the pain with big discounts off Post Office retail rates. Go to Stamps.com, click on the Microphone at the TOP of the homepage and type in FRIENDS and get a special offer that includes a 4-week trial PLUS free postage AND a digital scale without any long-term commitment. ThirdLove believes that every woman deserves to feel comfortable and confident every day. With the right kind of support, they help her do this. Go to THIRDLOVE.com/FRIENDS now to find your perfect-fitting bra and get 15% off your first purchase! Here at With Friends Like These, we love Grove Collaborative, the online marketplace that delivers all-natural home, beauty, an...

61 MINFEB 21
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All Doom And Bloomberg (with Rick Wilson)

Listen To Your Heart (with Kate Murphy)

EWant to learn some spicy new tricks just in time for Valentine’s Day? This week Kate Murphy joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about this season’s hottest tip: mindfully listening to those around you. Kate Murphy, author of You’re Not Listening, talks about why listening is so important, and how it can save your life in the long term. Afterward, they discuss being comfortable with silence and working through disagreements. Thanks to our sponsors! quip, makers of the quip electric toothbrush wants you to know the one single discovery that matters most for your dental care. It is simply this, that if you have good habits, you are good. Join over THREE MILLION healthy mouths and get quip today, starting at TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS. And if you go to getquip.com/FRIENDS, RIGHT NOW, you’ll get your first refill FREE. Rothy’s has quickly grown to a most-loved, gotta-have-them brand. It’s no surprise they have over 1,000 nearly perfect reviews. They’re stylish, sustainable, comfor...

49 MINFEB 14
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Listen To Your Heart (with Kate Murphy)

Latest Episodes

When Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own

ESo far this season of “WFLT: Converts Edition,” we’ve focused on why the brain resists change — but that doesn’t mean that people give up on trying. Previous episodes have taught us that arguing doesn’t work and that people’s beliefs can be impervious to facts. But what about the blunt force approach? What about… brainwashing? We'll talk to science writer Kathleen Turner, author of the book, "Brainwashing: The Science of Thought Control.” Thanks to our sponsors! Best Fiends: If you’re looking for a fun way to pass the time while engaging your brain and enjoying breathtaking visuals and a gripping story, your answer is Best Fiends,freeon the Apple App Store or Google Play. Crooked Media’s own Adopt-a-State program! Ahead of this year’s elections, the team at Crooked has been hard at work trying to find the best ways for all of you to impact its results aside (of course) from casting your own ballot. Now they have an answer: Vote Save America’s brand new Adopt A State program. The Adopt A State program lets you directly support the work of organizers, volunteers, and candidates in the six key battleground states that will be most important to winning a progressive majority in 2020: Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Florida, and North Carolina. When you sign up to adopt a state atvotesaveamerica.com/adopt, you’ll get specific calls to action—things you cando yourself, from home, right now—that will make a huge impact on the races in these states.

35 MIN3 d ago
Comments
When Your Thoughts Are Not Your Own

Why Your Brain Doesn't Want You to Change

EWhat happens when someone tells you something that challenges a deeply held belief? On the surface, it may feel annoying or uncomfortable, but according to research from the University of Southern California by Jonas Kaplan and Sarah Gimbel, it’s more than that. When people are presented with information that runs contrary to what they already believe, “The response in the brain that we see is very similar to what would happen if, say, you were walking through the forest and came across a bear.” On this episode, Kaplan joins the show to talk about this research, and how that instinctive, adverse reaction is the brain trying to protect itself — an attempt to keep your idea of yourself stable and whole. Oh, and Crooked Media fans should know: Kaplan and Gimbel figured this out by studying the stubborn brains of a bunch of liberals. Sources: Kaplan and Gimbel were guests on this episode of the You Are Not So Smart podcast (which was one of the inspirations for this whole season!). The paper about their study is here. The study on how even split-second decisions are hard to change gets a write-up here. Thanks to our sponsors! Ritual, the multivitamin, reinvented. Get 10% off during your first three months at ritual.com/FRIENDS Kiwico, the seriously fun subscription box for kids. Get YOUR FIRST MONTH FREE on select crates at kiwico.com/FRIENDS

32 MIN1 w ago
Comments
Why Your Brain Doesn't Want You to Change

Why (Most) People Don’t Convert

EWelcome to our first themed season, “With Friends Like These: Converts.” We’ve always been interested in why and how people change their minds about what they believe — mostly because it just doesn’t happen that often. Once we we make a choice about who we are or what we want to do, we start ignoring the evidence that might prove us wrong: that’s what “confirmation bias” is. Social psychologist Carol Tavris joins us to discuss the phenomenon, offer examples of it, and delve into the mystery of why some people seem capable of resisting the habit of rationalization and some people don’t. Further reading and sources: “Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me),” by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson Ezra Klein discusses confirmation bias and how the self-reinforcing effect of polarization this previous episode about his book, “Why We’re Polarized.” We discussed the ways we push each other into further and further away once we decide what we believe in this episode with Lilliana Mason, “When Ideology Is Identity”, about her book, “Uncivil Agreement: How Politics Became Our Identity.” One of the most influential accounts of extreme rationalization in action: “When Prophecy Fails: A Social and Psychological Study of a Modern Group the That Predicted the Destruction of the World,” which tells the story of a doomsday cult whose members’ certainty about their beliefs only increased after the apocalypse failed to occur.

35 MIN2 w ago
Comments
Why (Most) People Don’t Convert

It’s My Body and I’ll Live if I Want To with Alice Wong

EThis week friend of the pod Alice Wong (@SFDirewolf) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about what it means to be a part of the disabled community during a pandemic. Spoiler: the world seems to get a little too cavalier about whether or not you deserve to live anymore. They talk about the grassroots activism being done within the community, and what able bodied folks can do to listen and be better. Remember, we are staying inside and quarantining for the good of everyone, not just those we deem worthy of surviving capitalism. Learn more about Alice’s work with the Disability Visibility Project here. Read more about the fight for Medicaid here. Thanks to our sponsors! With their powerful matching technology, ZipRecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right skills and experience for your job — and actively invites them to apply. To try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE, go to ZipRecruiter.com/friends! Le Tote is the fashion RENTAL service where you can choose the cl...

41 MINMAR 27
Comments
It’s My Body and I’ll Live if I Want To with Alice Wong

Welfare for White People with Eduardo Porter

EWant to listen to anything NOT about COVID-19? We got the episode for you! Eduardo Porter (@portereduardo) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about a much lighter subject: the history of racism in class divides and how it still affects us today. They talk about the hopes we’ve had in the past for a racially diverse working class coalition and how it’s been destroyed time and time again by exclusive language. Afterwards, they talk about how our social welfare will probably not cut it for everyone over the coming weeks as we all lose our jobs to this virus. Finally, they talk about what we can do to stay positive when tackling seemingly unsolvable issues. Learn more about Eduardo’s book, American Poison. Looking for a way to help out during this time from your isolation? Donate to the Coronavirus Relief Fund Here. Thanks to our sponsors! Whether your mission is to live a more sustainable life and reduce your fashion footprint, or cut down your shopping bills, the fashion re...

63 MINMAR 20
Comments
Welfare for White People with Eduardo Porter

A Whole Other Level of Disaster (with Dan Drezner)

EThis week Dan Drezner joins Ana Marie Cox to talk about the likelihood of Trump handling COVID-19 responsibly (you guessed it, not well). Dan argues in his book, Toddler in Chief, that not only is Trump a toddler, power in American politics has shifted to the executive, making this more dangerous than ever. They discuss the treacherous tales of badger-related attacks on staffers in the White House to the genuine concerns of friends and family members about Trump’s behavior. Finally, Dan gives us some reasons not to freak out: we still have some power. Thanks to our sponsors! Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? BetterHelp online counseling is there for you. Get 10% off your first month with discount code FRIENDS. Go to BetterHelp.com/FRIENDS Rothy’s shoes are incredibly comfortable with zero break-in period thanks to their seamlessly knit design. With many chic styles to choose from, Rothy's shoes are the perfect pa...

61 MINMAR 14
Comments
A Whole Other Level of Disaster (with Dan Drezner)

The Hopeful Feminist (with Rebecca Solnit)

ECW: Sexual assault and violence against women. If you, or someone you know, has experienced sexual violence, please call the RAINN hotline: 800.656.HOPE (4673). It’s never too late to get help. It’s no secret that most women live in fear of violence. Nearly every week, there’s a news story showcasing the most gruesome examples of it, like the woman who was killed for jogging in Queens, or the countless number of ‘Rejection Murders’ men commit after a woman says “no.” This week, author of Men Explain Things to Me, Rebecca Solnit, joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to discuss her new memoir: Recollections of My Nonexistence. Together, they dream of a world where we don’t have to sit our daughters down and give them a never ending list of safety tips. They talk about what it’s like to grow up in our patriarchal culture, where giving those warnings seems more effective than stopping men from committing acts of violence. Finally, Rebecca reminds us that as much as violent and po...

62 MINMAR 6
Comments
The Hopeful Feminist (with Rebecca Solnit)

The Psychological Abyss (with Ezra Klein)

EThis week we'll answer our number one question: why are we so polarized? Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to answer it. His new book is called, Why We’re Polarized, and they talk about how a lot of divisiveness stems from racism and problems beyond “political disagreements.” Finally they ask, can we bring unconditional love into politics, and more importantly, should we? Join us for another epistemologically exciting episode of With Friends Like These! Thanks to our sponsors! Is there something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals?BetterHelp online counseling is there for you. Best of all, it’s a truly affordable option. Get 10% off your first month with discount code FRIENDS when you go to BetterHelp.com/FRIENDS. With their powerful matching technology, ZipRecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience and invite them to apply to your job. Try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE, when you g...

66 MINFEB 28
Comments
The Psychological Abyss (with Ezra Klein)

All Doom And Bloomberg (with Rick Wilson)

EAna Marie Cox (@anamariecox) sits down with Lincoln Group founder Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) to discuss what the soft Republican stance is on everything happening around us right now. Will Trump stop an election from happening? As Rick agrees: Yikes all around. Thanks to our sponsors! Postage rates have gone up AGAIN. Thankfully, Stamps.com eases the pain with big discounts off Post Office retail rates. Go to Stamps.com, click on the Microphone at the TOP of the homepage and type in FRIENDS and get a special offer that includes a 4-week trial PLUS free postage AND a digital scale without any long-term commitment. ThirdLove believes that every woman deserves to feel comfortable and confident every day. With the right kind of support, they help her do this. Go to THIRDLOVE.com/FRIENDS now to find your perfect-fitting bra and get 15% off your first purchase! Here at With Friends Like These, we love Grove Collaborative, the online marketplace that delivers all-natural home, beauty, an...

61 MINFEB 21
Comments
All Doom And Bloomberg (with Rick Wilson)

Listen To Your Heart (with Kate Murphy)

EWant to learn some spicy new tricks just in time for Valentine’s Day? This week Kate Murphy joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about this season’s hottest tip: mindfully listening to those around you. Kate Murphy, author of You’re Not Listening, talks about why listening is so important, and how it can save your life in the long term. Afterward, they discuss being comfortable with silence and working through disagreements. Thanks to our sponsors! quip, makers of the quip electric toothbrush wants you to know the one single discovery that matters most for your dental care. It is simply this, that if you have good habits, you are good. Join over THREE MILLION healthy mouths and get quip today, starting at TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS. And if you go to getquip.com/FRIENDS, RIGHT NOW, you’ll get your first refill FREE. Rothy’s has quickly grown to a most-loved, gotta-have-them brand. It’s no surprise they have over 1,000 nearly perfect reviews. They’re stylish, sustainable, comfor...

49 MINFEB 14
Comments
Listen To Your Heart (with Kate Murphy)
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